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On 4 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Parents' Bill of Rights (Saskatchewan). The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Requested move 4 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is consensus against the proposed move per WP:PTOPIC and WP:NATDIS – that said, there was some support for an alternate move to Saskatchewan Parent's Bill of Rights, but no clear consensus on that front. Opposition to the originally proposed move based on WP:NATDIS was not explicitly opposed to the alt move, but those who argued against it on a WP:PTOPIC basis pointed out that there is no ambiguity with other titles. Further discussion of the proposed alt move (Saskatchewan Parent's Bill of Rights) might be helpful some time in the future. (closed by non-admin page mover) Cremastra (talk) 19:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Parents' Bill of Rights → Parents' Bill of Rights (Saskatchewan) – Similar legislation with similar names (e.g. Parental Rights in Education, etc.) would favor creating a disambiguation article, and having this article, which focuses on Sasktachewan, be named after the jurisdiction it is concerned with. Casspedia (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can support that. Following the Florida bill, it could also be moved to Saskatchewan Parents' Bill of Rights. Either way. What do you think about New Brunswick's Policy 713? Other justin (talk) 23:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't be opposed to that either, given the role of a disambiguation page. And given that to my knowledge there aren't other Policy 713s with sufficient notoriety to have a Wikipedia article, I don't see a reason for a move — but with time passing, if another Policy 713 somewhere in the world becomes as notorious, then it would make sense. Remains TBD. Casspedia (talk) 03:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a page move to include "Saskatchewan" in the title but oppose enclosing the name in parentheses because that would imply there is another near identically named "Parent's Bill of Rights" elsewhere in the world. The concept of a Parents' "bill of rights" is broader than just those related to Parental Rights in Education and could include other parental rights that complement the rights of children. There is already an entry for Parental Rights in Education that redirects to Florida Parental Rights in Education Act. So that could become a disambiguation page. So to be consistent with that naming I could support the title "Saskatchewan Parents' Bill of Rights". - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:25, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There is no other existing article competing for WP:PTOPIC for Parents' Bill of Rights -- so per WP:PARENDIS this seems unnecessary and against policy. TiggerJay (talk) 03:14, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Per TiggerJay. No other article exists and adding a disambiguator is wholly unnecessary. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 13:50, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support the position of Cameron Dewe which is that we don't need disambiguation marks in parentheses but we could make a more clear article by including Saskatchewan in the title. Jorahm (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose - I agree with the rationale above that it would be beneficial to add "Saskatchewan" to the title, however, doing so would be inconsistent with our many, many other legislation articles which do not follow this convention. If we are to do this, it would be beneficial to normalize the practice through an RfC to adjust our naming conventions, otherwise, this will be an outlier. ASUKITE 16:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 29 May 2025

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– See above discussion. WP:PTOPIC — the primary opposition rationale — no longer applies. See Parents' Bill of Rights (disambiguation). Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 01:30, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I mistakenly moved this page page after creating the disambiguation, not seeing the prior discussion. User:Bobby Cohn noticed my mistake and kindly notified me, so I am making the discussion now. Apologies! Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 01:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So what happens with the base name Parents' Bill of Rights? See WP:EXPLICIT. Right now, the dab page is WP:ONEOTHER and the other topic does not use the base name in its title (nor are there any redirects). Mdewman6 (talk) 07:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mdewman6 I have added to the disambiguation page:

Ohio House Bill 8 (2023) which uses the title "Enact the Parents' Bill of Rights"
PROTECT Kids Act which was introduced as "H.R.5 - Parents Bill of Rights Act"

Though I believe there would be an argument for WP:SMALLDETAILS there is likely no grounds for confusion at the given titles. Though EXPLICIT is a valid concern, what is the proposed final layout of all the article titles? There's no point in disambiguating the Sask bill if the redirect leads there, or if there are no other articles with the same AT. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

there is likely no grounds for confusion at the given titles

The title design of "Ohio House Bill 8 (2023)" compared to "Parents' Bill of Rights (Saskatchewan)" are completely different. That doesn't mean that either is more canonical than the other.

"Ohio House Bill 8 (2023)" could be refered to as "Parent's Bill of Rights (Ohio)"
"Parents' Bill of Rights (Saskatchewan)" could be refered to as "Saskatchewan Bill 137 (2023)"

Both systems have the name and the technical reference. No reason to believe that "Parents' Bill of Rights" refers specifically to Saskatchewan Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 16:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explicitly:

Parents' Bill of Rights → Parents' Bill of Rights (Saskatchewan)
Parents' Bill of Rights (disambiguation) → Parents' Bill of Rights

I've amended the top level comment to state this. Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 16:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment for full disclosure: I've corrected the template, see this diff. Let me know if this wasn't the intention. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 18:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]