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On 22 May 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Tropak to Trepak. The result of the discussion was moved.

"In dance"

That header is plain stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.68.255.36 (talk) 10:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tropak is Ukrainian, not at all Russian

User 91.108.31.232 needs to start offering reliable sourcing for their edits attmpting to present Tropak as a Russian dance tradition. Despite false impressions propagated in The Nutcracker, Tropak was developed and danced solely by the Ukrainian Cossacks. Neither the dress identified with the dance nor the dance itself was ever part of Russian culture. The fact that Tchaikovsky used traditional Ukrainian dances and folk music does not magically transform these dances and folk music into traditional Russian dance and traditional Russian music. To be clear: Russians have never danced Trepak/Tropak/Hopak as part of their traditional national heritage. The Tropak is a clearly identifiable feature of the Ukrainian heritage. 91.108.31.232 has made edits here and here to revise the article to fold Tropak into a Russian tradition of dance. These efforts appear to go beyond cultural appropriation, these attacks on the sourced facts of Ukrainian culture are in tune with Russia's larger дезинформация campaign to weaken Ukrainian culture. -- Paleorthid (talk) 23:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here science of Music encyclopedia, USSR, 1981:

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ТРЕПАК – старинная рус. пляска, распространённая также на Украине. Плясовые движения (преимущественно дробные шаги и притоптывания) импровизировались исполнителем, стремившимся показать удаль и виртуозное мастерство. По характеру Трепак имел много общего с «Камаринской» и «Барыней».

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— Musical encyclopedia

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TREPAK – ancient Russian dance, also common in Ukraine. Dance movements (mainly fractional steps and trampling) were improvised by the performer, who sought to show prowess and virtuoso skill. The nature of the Trepak had a lot in common with "Kamarinskaya" and "Barynya".

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— Translation

--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:44, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 21:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tropak → Trepak – Common name --Altenmann >talk 16:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC) --Altenmann >talk 16:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom (Ngram). See also Trepak (The Nutcracker). Mellk (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.