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Oblivion 360 Downloads Begin

For $3, you can outfit your horse with sparkly armor.

By Patrick Klepek, 04/03/2006

Microsoft has been promising additional downloadable premium content for their launch games ever since Xbox 360 debuted, but Bethesda Softworks is already on the ball; Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion owners can purchase the first of many promised premium content packages for the epic RPG.

If you're interested in outfitting your horse with a spiffy armor pack, it'll set you back 200 Microsoft Points (roughly $2.50). PC owners aren't out of luck, though, as Bethseda confirmed to 1UP the same content will be available on their website later today or tomorrow morning for exactly 51 cents cheaper at $1.99.

The company didn't provide an explanation for the price discrepancy, but they did confirm players shouldn't expect swords, maces and other items to be a part of Bethesda's premium content plans. "We want to add new stuff, not different versions of things already in the game," says VP of PR and Marketing Pete Hines.

$2.50 (or slightly less, depending on your hardware preference) isn't too bad for a completely new item, and Bethesda says the price won't fluctuate very much for future items. "We priced it [the armor] at a level we think is reasonable. I would imagine all of our content would be around the same range," he said.


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  • willyyum
  • Huh??

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� willyyum
    Paying actual cash for 'extra content' for the PC version seems kinda strange, esp. since the modding community will probably put out similar stuff. Look at Morrowind, for instance. TONS of mods, and it's all free.
  • gopro
  • For .50 cents sure, but not $2.50

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� gopro
    Damn I dont even own this game and im getting worked up on this crap. 2.50, what are they smoking. Only morons would buy something like this.
  • Richard79
  • You Know

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Richard79
    Yeah I know that they are really trying to push downloadable content on us...and it sounds cool. So Oblivion for the 360 is the first one out the gate with some thing pretty decent (note I said decent not amazing). But most people are already complaining about the price, but like all things in this world you have a choice if you want to buy it or not. So stop complaining if you don't need it then don't get it. The choice is yours.
  • GeeQnastie
  • It wasn't so much the price...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� GeeQnastie
    I would have paid the 200 points, I have enough on my account sitting around doing nothing. However, what really bugged me, is it was just bought, and unlocked. Like the Kameo Winter Wonderland pack, you shovel out the money, and it's just there. I don't wanna just pay for something that all it does is edit a look a little bit (unless of course that editing is the change in colors to certain armors) I want like a whole quest that opens up armor options. Or to actually havta retrieve the armor off of enemy NPC's horses. Some kind of challenge. Plus, now that I've mentioned Kameo, the day I bought the WWP, was the day BEFORE it was made free... what a rip off
  • LemonChicken
  • 2 Freaking Bucks?!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� LemonChicken
    I don't have microsoft bonus point dealies! How the hell am I suppose to get this? The shouldn't make people pay for this crap! Maybe if there was more content...but it only has steel armor and elven armor. So, two items for 1.25 each. What a freaking rip off.
  • Firf
  • Interesting take...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Firf
    I would think they would want to offer the downloads for free to gain: 1) customer loyalty, 2) add replay value to the games; 3) add new excitement to a current game and keep the excitement going well after the game has been released; and 4) give folks unprecidented variety... It is really not a complaint because people can choose to or not to download them for a cost, however if paying were to give you an advantage over other players, then we have a problem (e.g. in the Live! environment). Adults would have a significant advantage over kids (well, I guess that evens the playing field because they usually kick our adult butts ;)) and, in general, those will $ would have an advantage over those that don't... I suppose some could say that is built into our culture, but it doesn't mean that, particularly in the game world, would be appropriate. So, I have to agree, that although we can choose whether or not to engage in cost based additions that are not really an expansion (which would be worth money), it is the idea that may be a problem, along with the potential for it being a trend that we would all likey 'not like'. P.S. Is there any real value other than the look (and maybe trying to keep your 1000-2500 gold value in your horse)?
  • ratmonkey
  • mo money to trick out my pony?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� ratmonkey
    i dont think so. $3 is pretty expensive just to get the horses some spiffy outfit to match yourself. if sales for horse armor dont go well, perhaps theyll release it in a "game of the year" edtion of Oblivion. i can picture that.
  • Lobezno_D
  • Unfreaking believable...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Lobezno_D
    I'm not paying that amount, it's ridiculous, and whats the point if its not even multiplayer, I'm going to show off my brand new horse armor to my neighbor?!? I'm disappointed.
  • down_south_hustler
  • please read

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� down_south_hustler
    If you don't want it don't buy it. Why are ppl without a 360 and without OB fussing. Now if this was required then I would think it was crazy. OPTIONAL PPL. Kinda like tinted windows.
  • Drengy
  • $2.50 is a joke

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Drengy
    Waaay too much for something like this. Especially when it's a single player game. I can almost understand paying if this were an MMORPG, where you could show-off your phat ride, but why bother if no one is going to see it but you? And if you play in first-person, even you will rarely see it. A single item like horse armor should be no more than 50 points, not 200!
  • teampirateninja
  • For HORSE ARMOR?!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� teampirateninja
    Why should we have to pay $2.50 for Horse Armor? If you pay $5.00 you could get Geometry Wars which is a way better value.
  • iceclimber
  • re: babies

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� iceclimber
    I couldn't DISAGREE with you more. 2$ for ONE item is retarded. I loved the idea of MICROtransactions, not SMALL transactions. there is a difference. if you end up paying 20 to 30$ for a bunch of items or vehicles or whatever content that should have been included in the first place, then this whole marketplace is a total ripoff. that's like going to the restaurant, paying 60$ for your meal, but having to pay extra to get a glass of water. I'm all for paying 5 to 10 bucks for a map pack in a FPS or extra courses in a racing game, because that type of content adds longevity to a game but a frigging ITEM? and it's not about the money. 2$ is nothing when you've dropped a grand on a new console, accessories a few games. it's the principle that's just wrong. what's to stop them from shipping barebones games further down the line and making us pay for all the extras. first it's the armor, then it'll be the horse! "you wanna ride a horse, fine, but it'll cost ya". I love the marketplace and I have no problem spending 800 credits on a XBLA game because I think that's an awesome deal, but 200 credits for a single item is unacceptable. it is we as customers who can put a stop to this before it gets out of control. I strongly urge every xbox 360 customer to boycott such shameless tactics. we already paid 400 bucks for your console and 60 bucks for your game. what more do you want from us, a FACKING KIDNEY??
  • lunaclown
  • You people complain too much.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� lunaclown
    That's all I ever see in these threads. Complain complain complain. If you don't like what something is or how something is going then don't take part in it. Complaining on this site isn't going to achieve anything. Call Microsoft and voice your opinion. They sure as hell aren't going to come onto here and pay attention to your rants about how everything should be free.
  • makingnoiseloud
  • good idea, bad idea:

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� makingnoiseloud
    It's nice that they were able to actually get a new feature out this quickly, but why include a price in something like this? Maybe for something like new armor and weapons... but not something to pimp my ride.
  • deanis73
  • paying too much???

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� deanis73
    To those who say you paid too much for this game, are you serious? How long have you actually played this game? I hit 60 hours yesterday, and I STILL haven't quite beaten all the storylines (not to mention all the side quests). Sure, it may be 10 bucks more than a game for the PS2 or Xbox, but I like to think of games in terms of price per hour of entertainment (and price per quality, but that's another issue), and this one is at less than $1 an hour right now. Quit whining, enjoy the game, and you have only yourselves to blame for paying an extra ten bucks for the "making of" DVD and some silly fantasy coin.
  • japanderer
  • re: sci fi neurofunk

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� japanderer
    dude, i totally agree with you. your rant reminds me of a letter i read in the past about how people were paying real money for virtual items they will never be able to hold or feel.. friends:hey, you wanna go to the movies tonight? you: sorry, i cant. im saving up for that silver sword for my character in W.O.W. that has a +9 against ogres i save my money for dvds and for paying bills, not for shiny sparkly crap for horses, and i dont even own a 360!
  • vttym
  • *yawn* It's horse armor, people..

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� vttym
    If they charged 2.50 to fix loading hiccups, mid-distance draw-in or glitches, I'd be up in arms... But it's horse armor.. If you're relying on your horse to assist you in kills throughout the world, perhaps you want to rethink your strategy.. I have no problem with a company offering expanded features for a small cost. I don't have to buy this (And won't), but if there is a release down the road that piques my interest, I'll jump on it. I mean seriously, do you think 60 bucks covers the 3+ years of development this game was in? Everyone get off your high horse and realize this is a business that needs to make money in order to survive. If you want to see more games like this (and according to everyone I've talked to, we do), then put your money where your mouth is. This isn't a not-for-profit industry.
  • Omen9405
  • Not intrested

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Omen9405
    Give me a new level or a new task on top of the many tasks on this game and then its worth it.Bling bling on a horse I dont care to much of.
  • gaming_117@hotmail.com
  • Probably a bit too much.....

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� [email protected]
    ....for one small item in the game. I'll probably eventually buy it but I think $2.50 is way too much. If one piece of armor is $2.50 how much will new quests/episodic content cost!?!?! I'd gladly pay a buck for the armor. Kinda like paying a buck a song through some online services. Still alittle steep but who can't afford one freaking dollar. They'd still be making serious cash. You figure if it took the 3D artist 10 hours at $75 an hour to create it then all the other BS to get it up on the marketplace your probably looking at a labor cost of $900 at the most! Probably less then that since they're likely just reskinning an existing 3d object with new bitmaps and maybe some minor geometry tweaks. Bottom line they'd have to sell way less then 1000 units to recoup the investment at $1 a pop. I think $2.50 is just greedy. For $20 bucks you got a DVD full of several maps for Halo 2....theres ALOT more work there for your $20 bucks then for a piece of armor at $2.50..... I have no problem with them holding back certain items for release later as long as the game you bought is fully fleshed out. I don't think anyone can make an arguement that your not getting your $60-$70 worth with Oblivion. I'm sure they have a slew of things either done or in-progress for release on the marketplace. I'm good with that. Just be a bit more reasonable with the pricing structure.
  • gunhed123
  • on the brite side

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� gunhed123
    You dont need it to finish the game.It just makes your horse look better.
  • snatchers
  • i agree

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� snatchers
    with most of what you are sayin....holdin back content just to have us pay for it later is wrong...i would pay more for mission, towns, stuff like that, not that i need any new missions in oblivion right now....
  • ExplicitBrain
  • 50 cents would be too much...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� ExplicitBrain
    ... for something you're not even getting. I mean, horse armor? REALLY? I can't think of anyuthing more useless.
  • tygertat
  • Testing Testing 1,2....3

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� tygertat
    The way I see it is that we as a gaming community are being tested to see how far we will let things go. Its that simple. If we don't buy into it then maybe that in itself will say something. I for example am a bit reluctant to pay the $60 price tag on my next-gen games and just flat out refuse to pay $70 for a "special edition". So adding on anything to the price is just out of the question for me, especially for some novelty edition to my game. Now if the games were cheaper......then maybe I'd consider it. Hey Microsoft- not a bad idea is it?
  • Glinki_Malinki
  • Nurakh has a point.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Glinki_Malinki
    Its not that long after the release. Who knows if this was ready to go when oblivion was set to be relased. Did they hold it back on purpose? This needs a watchdog of somekind and fast!
  • RadioXtatic
  • Impressive

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� RadioXtatic
    Not that I'm a cheapskate; it is only a couple of dollars... but this is getting rather ridiculous. $3 to put... shiny armor on your horse, that only like... you and maybe some of your friends are going to see? And I fear this is only the beginning.
  • Nurakh
  • This is a bad sign

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Nurakh
    This horse armor irks me, now 3 dollars isnt a heck of a lot of money but it poses the question. Who will regulate what should be free or not? Will game developers start holding back content originally planned to be included in the game in lieu of making money through market place download? I see this as a potentially hazardous threat, in the end gamers could be ripped off big time. Yet so far im seeing the market place as pretty awesome. I've been trying out the BFMC 2 demo. Multiplayer for free, an awesome download and i hope there's more to follow. Someone needs to keep the developers honest though, i think for 60 dollars for oblivion, the horse armor was something they could've thrown in for free as a gesture of good will. But i guess i can't complain, they arent forcing me to download in order to play the game, and otherwise oblivion is such a great game there isn't any room for complaints. Microsoft i love the 360, but please don't let developers screw us over with holding back content!
  • BlakeFOTM
  • "Organic Growth"

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� BlakeFOTM
    Just like Super Sizing, extended warranties, and items in the check out lanes, companies will try and squeeze every drop out of us. But... "that's business!" Unfortunately, I think we can look forward to a lot more of this in the future of home consoles. When I first heard about the 360's "Marketplace" function, I immediately thought, "Great, now they're gonna try and nickle and dime me to death for every little thing." Sure enough!! I don't even have my 360 yet (Sitting at my gf's house until my birthday in MAY!) but already I'm worried about my console becoming a door to door salesman that never leaves. And what if we choose not to play along? Do you think they'll make the content free? I think they'll make it more necesary. Make us feel like we aren't getting "the full experience" or something.
  • fdotorres
  • lmao

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� fdotorres
    for $3 dollars, i could buy a way better game (pre-owned, of course) than oblivion
  • We8ninE
  • You won't catch me buying!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� We8ninE
    I think that's sad, they're going to charge us 60 dollars for the game and then add more costs! They should be giving it to us for free or a way cheaper cost. I won't buy anything like that so I won't support it.
  • objectivegameguy
  • ok i take it back id think about paying like 50 cents for it

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� objectivegameguy
    2.50 is a joke for something as small as that. Ive found a couple unlimited money glitches in the game anyway, so if my horse dies, i dont really sweat buying a new one. But i would never spend more than a dollar or 2 on additional content, and it better be something big, like a car in a racing game, or a new map in a FPS. I not sure any of this is a good idea though. If people start buying it are they gonna start pulling content from the game to sell it to us later? Probably.
  • gamewiz1
  • Re: Sci_Fi_Neurofunk

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� gamewiz1
    Man, I can't agree with you more. I also bought the 75-dollar Collectors Edition, and boy, was that worthless. You get some cheap little book that probably cost around a dollar to make, and a coin. Sure, I prefer the collector�??s edition, but I don't agree with charging 2 or 3 dollars for additional items. In fact, the only things I think are worth spending money on are the actual games. I've been disappointed in the fact that you have to spend money on things like Themes, and in game picture packs. Even though I love the Xbox Live Marketplace, I don't think they should be charging for something that basically advertises their games to whomever is playing games at your house. You're already doing them a favor and buying the game, so being fleeced for something as trivial as armor is just wrong. I will never spend money on themes, or single pieces of armor. And two dollars for one item, considering the fact that they bragged on that little DVD that they bundled with the collectors edition that the game contained what? hundreds or thousands of items. You do the math, two dollars per item is an ass reaming of unfathomable proportions. Anyone that buys them is an ass also, because as mentioned previously online, every single time someone buys a premium pack, they are telling the game companies that charging more for something is, "OK". Anyone with common sense would swear off buying this type content, and send a clear message, "Don't rip off your fans!�??
  • Druz3
  • Hey how about this Bethesda: no

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Druz3
    I'n not on a 360, micro transactions are a no go
  • futurebiblehero
  • eternallyNot is completely right.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� futurebiblehero
    Furthermore, for every Bill O'Reilly out there in training; exactly how does it affect you if someone openly complains? Ironic how someone should voice their displeasure by complete silence and yet you're all incapable of doing the same. This could've easily been a bonus on an already lacking Limited Edition that we all paid $70 for (the first game in nearly 12 years I've paid that much for, too). We love you Bethesda, but quite frankly, very few of us love you that much. As most have stated, it's not the price but the principle of the matter when we're paying this much for games in the first place.
  • MicroGates
  • Micro-transactions

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� MicroGates
    To all of the people pissing and moaning about the micro transaction's,there "Optional"!!!(And there happening on the PS3 also,so get used to it!)I too paid $70 for Oblivion (And I would have paid even more!) but I know if I want little extra's I will have to pay a small fee.What I find most amusing is the people that complain about a measly $2.50 transaction are the same Sony fanboys who are going to willingly pay $5-$10 to download movies and music through Sony's "Live" service!If you don't like it then don't use it,plain and simple.
  • Sci_Fi_Neurofunk
  • RE:$70 wasn't enough?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Sci_Fi_Neurofunk
    Seriously... Its bad enough when games go to $60 and then when you buy the special edition you're screwed into paying $3 here another $3 there for additional content that i'm sure isn't worth paying 10 cents for. This is fucking ridiculous and is seriously pissing me off. They should be happy they still have fans but with this $/point system they're alienating they're most fervent followers. Just be grateful with you're $60/$70 Bethesda and give me free content.
  • julsblanco
  • how is this for complaint

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� julsblanco
    go to the ridge racer page and check the 80 points songs o sorry tunes you have to download. what nerve!!!
  • gaming_117@hotmail.com
  • Whining on forums works???

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� [email protected]
    I have to call BS. Checkout the forum for 360 freezes and jacked up systems. 3500+ posts from users that are getting jerked around by M$ support. What do we get for it? They've stopped overnighting boxes (coffins) or returns even if your new (read:refurbed) unit is jacked up right out of the box. Yes. I'm pissed.
  • julsblanco
  • coffin for my vampire

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� julsblanco
    they should put a coffing for downloading or maybe a sleeping bag for those long day in the woods of oblivion. since im a vampire the daylight just kills my ability to do any damage or cast any powerfull spell, so taking a nap under a tree or somthing should be nice.
  • eternallyNot
  • Whining is crucial

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� eternallyNot
    I know when things like this happen, there are always posts about "if you don't like it, don't buy it - that simple." Actually, it isn't. If everyone is silent and there aren't any sales. While we make think it is obvious why something doesn't sell, it honestly isn't that obvious to corporations. Our company spends tons of money trying to understand what our customers like and don't like. When something isn't going over well, they spend more cash for researching the cause. And I am here to tell you that they never think of cost as the first barrier to sales. Because they set that price based on the belief that the service/product is worth it. Usually the first belief is that customers aren't buying because they aren't "aware" and follow with mass advertising. Silent boycotts don't do anything... whining on forums will, because they do pay people to watch them.
  • GREENCHIEF69
  • yay i guess

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� GREENCHIEF69
    I guess thats pretty neat i still have the horses that priest Mabel Oral and Priest Pine or sometin give you at Weynon Priority and I use them as my main mode of Transport. I guess the rest of you guys just are bad with horses.
  • Xebius
  • It's called a Mod.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Xebius
    And PC users get them for free. Money Money makes the world go around. dododoo
  • julsblanco
  • who uses horses any way?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� julsblanco
    im just saying hoses are a waste of money in the game, last one i bought was chase by a troll who end up eating my horse for lunch and i was left whith a no money back policy from my friendly city stable.
  • charliekwalker
  • I'd buy some wild levitate spells tho...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� charliekwalker
    I miss my flying....
  • charliekwalker
  • All my horses end up dead....

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� charliekwalker
    And no armor can change that.... they are uncintrollable when you dismount in an area with enemies, and tend to get themselves killed by doing stupid things... I wouldn't waste my points on armor, points towards increasing their AI intelligence, well I'd be all over that.
  • MattsterChief
  • Robbery

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� MattsterChief
    If the trend continues and you buy 25-30 items at $2.50 each you'd be paying as much if not more than you paid for the game. So $60 for 25 items or $60 for the hundreds that are already in the game. And the way it seems none of the new content is going to really enhance gameplay or load times. Go buy a slurpee and a candy bar with your $2.50, at least you'll be satisfied.
  • $kyscraper_Antfarm
  • how much is enough?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� $kyscraper_Antfarm
    So, they release the game a little over a week ago and already have an overpriced novelty item up for sale! Like everyone is saying: wasn't $70 enough. I also concur that they deliberately left this out of the game, along with some other stuff to put it up for sale later on and make even more. Incomplete games here we come. The cost of gaming nowadays is ridiculous even when you do have the money. You need HDTV, a broadband connection, a $400 console and pay $60/game...can you say second job. How about actually earning the item through a hardass sidequest or something. Getting it would mean alot more then.
  • mandangsbelow69
  • How bout Geri curls for my Avatar?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� mandangsbelow69
    That would rule Geri curls rule, I know the've been out of style for a while now but Geri curls are making a come back.
  • rustrobot
  • RE: BreakfastPills

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� rustrobot
    The armor isn't the main point of the article; it's just showing the first steps into the new market. With downloadable content developers gain additional revenue on their products, which in turn keeps costs down, so you don't have to pay $80 for a game. It's the act that's important, not the product. I'm excited about this because I expect bigger and better things to come from it (also because I needs me some bling for my horse).
  • XtremeGmr4life
  • If you don't like it don't buy it case and point

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� XtremeGmr4life
    You can complain and whine all you want but it all comes down to this. If you don't like this idea then don't buy this its that simple. Me personally I think this is a complete rip off in my opinion there for I am not buying it. I am not complaining or anything but paying 2.50 for some armor for my horse in a game seems kinda dumb so I am not buying it. So lets all calm down and lets wait for some new quest or something to pop up worth spending money on. Honestly it seems kinda hard for me to spend more money on a game I already bought unless its a MMO. Maybe if you don't purchase it the prices will lower or even better become free.
  • Captain10Beers
  • Horse armor...Whooptie-frickin doo!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Captain10Beers
    You know the old saying about a fool and his money.
  • fennador
  • see just Like I Thought

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� fennador
    I can't wait go into a shop in the next big rpg to buy a new sword and see that it has two prices ingame and real world +1 sword of ripoff 2000 gold in game $3.00 U.S woot can't wait
  • VacuitysBane
  • Us PC guys used to get this for free....

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� VacuitysBane
    go to the elderscrolls.com and check the downloads for morrowind, we got whole new quests for free, I bought the freakin' special edition to suppourt the company (and to get the septim) and this is how they repay me :@
  • yad_link
  • To XxFaTaLGaMeRxX16

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� yad_link
    Now, that's for Oblivion, now think of other games, Tob Raider Legend, all your ooos go here too, like ooo bigger boobs for Lara, $3 and the games to follow...OMFG, we are doomed, and I say when developers start selling framerate/graphics fixes...
  • coldcrush
  • re: crono27

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� coldcrush
    Just wondering, what is your definition of "plenty of money" that these artists and programmers make? Maybe a particular range by discipline would suffice.
  • objectivegameguy
  • boycott this crap!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� objectivegameguy
    If you guys start buying it, its gonna be a downward spiral!
  • yad_link
  • We are console gamers...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� yad_link
    Imagine to pay for the deleted scenes or extras in a DVD movie!! That's the same, if videogames are to be considered art, or something like that, I'll assume that the games have to be complete! Maybe the PC gamers are acostumed to play incomplete things, but I don't.
  • DJ Lushious
  • 1Up Get your MS Points straight!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� DJ Lushious
    100 MicroSoft Points = $1.25USD. "roughly $2.50." Wha-? It's simple, really. It is exactly $2.50USD.
  • crono27
  • REPLY --> SekurityHacker

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� crono27
    From a business standpoint it's a very savvy decision, I can completely understand WHY they want to do it. I just don't think it's right. The $10 hike in the retail price should be enough to justify all the new fancy graphics and content. Game programmers and artists ect. make PLENTY of money already.
  • turkish101
  • I don't like this idea...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� turkish101
    What's to stop developers from making an incomplete game, selling it for normal price (which is now $60), and selling you the rest of the game on the Marketplace? Don't like this one bit at all. The horse-armor should have been in the damn game in the first place.
  • Krakrok
  • $70 wasn't enough?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Krakrok
    Hey, here's an idea. Include EVERYTHING in the standard edition of any given game and put any extra content in the special edition, so that way you know upfront exactly what you're getting or missing out on. I'm talking about GAME content. I've already paid more than most folks have for the same game and got a bunch of crap that does nothing. Let's face it, the "special" editions of most games aren't really that special. I do see this paying-for-downloadable-extras stuff getting out of hand. I have yet to give Microsoft or any developer more money than I paid for the 360 or a game, and I truly hope I'm not forced to because someone gets greedy.
  • SekurityHacker
  • hmmm

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� SekurityHacker
    Crono, i would start getting use to that. Thats how things are changing towards. If you think it costs money to make things like that. Even small things... Programmers and Artists dont work for cheep. You gotta look at it from a bussiness stand point. Plus its only $2.50. You could get that much from searching your couches etc. Lol
  • theoldman53
  • Uber Ripoff

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� theoldman53
    $2.50 for one stinking item? Hopefully the response will be underwhelming and Microsoft will get the message that most people are smart enough to see a rip off. Thank god kids don't have credit cards.
  • SekurityHacker
  • Awsome

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� SekurityHacker
    This should be cool! I'm really stoked to check this stuff out. The lower price on the PC version makes scense because PC gamers arn't use to paying for content like that. I really hope in the future they offer new dungeons or things along those lines. What else makes me think is with the PC version you can get the TES Contruction Set to make custom content. They should run a contest to find some really good content from the set and offer the winning ones over the Marketplace; would be totally awsome! Cheers!
  • crono27
  • Whatever, this is retarded.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� crono27
    Sorry, but I'm gonna have to agree with Tylahedras and full_auto on this one. All of the content should be in the retail box you get at the store. I don't own the game, but if I did this would REALLY piss me off. WHY should we have to shell out MORE money to get all the content? What's to stop developers from taking 10% (or more) of the content off the top of a completed game and then charging whatever they want for it via download? It's total BS. I guess $60 plus tax for a new game isn't enough for em eh? I was considering buying the game and an Xbox 360 but now that I know about this I don't think I'm going to.
  • darthbean
  • $2.50!!! WHA?!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� darthbean
    "We priced it [the armor] at a level we think is reasonable. I would imagine all of our content would be around the same range," he said. Really? I think you guys should rethink that.
  • sherlocke-homeless
  • The skinny

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� sherlocke-homeless
    Microsoft didn't make the Xbox 360 because they liked games, they did it to make money. If they can pinch $2.50 out of the little kiddies and the big tools (which they can, and they do) for some special horse blanket that they say enhances the gaming experience... well, I've already said it. If you don't like it, don't pay for it, but you will because you are sheep have a nice day.
  • jakob493
  • I dont like the idea...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� jakob493
    I dont really like the idea of buying items in games with ACTUAL money. I mean, its like those arcade games in malls and movie theaters: it doesnt really matter how good at the game you are, it just matters how many quarters you have. I mean, any 5 year old could beat Time Crisis on an arcade console if he has $10 worth of change. But in console games, specifically MMOs, it also adds the unfairness that if a person playing the game doesnt want to spend more money on a game that costs $60, he has the disadvantage to even a loaded beginner that can just buy the best items. I dont know much about Oblivion, but this is just a general idea towards the concept. If I got any information about this wrong, sorry.
  • rachelmoore55
  • explaination of price difference

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� rachelmoore55
    360 owners r more gullable. afterall look at what they bought and the price. they have already proven their impatience and blind loyalty. think about it...by the time all of these little add-ons get released...oblivion maxed out, so to speak, will wind up being a $200 game. classic, absolutely classic. :P
  • burningmaster20002003
  • Lets charge people money for things..

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� burningmaster20002003
    That are supposed to be in the game already. Thanks alot for the new trend Microsoft.
  • DigitalVersatile
  • I expect a free mod soon

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� DigitalVersatile
    I figure some l33t hax0r will crack the armor and distribute it for free amongst the PC users. Not like it matters though, since PUTTING ARMOR ON A HORSE IS STUPID.
  • leof
  • Probably will be free in a few months.

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� leof
    Reminds me of the Halo maps or MechAssult 2 levels and Mechs. Maybe if you wait a few months and the downloads will be free.
  • jester08
  • i agree

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� jester08
    I agree with caleb. the fact of the matter is you don't have to buy it if you do not want to. So please don't whine about it. Yes you are going to have to pay for a shiny new hat. But the difference is i can get a shiny new hat on the game and it only cost imaginary money. This is exactly what bungie and microsoft did with the new maps. Well, to a higher extent i guess. The maps for halo 2 were almost necessary. anyway, what im tryin to say is don't whine, just don't buy.
  • porktree
  • But really they should release a patch

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� porktree
    That let's you restart all the quests that are glitched. And, for crying outloud, wasn't $70 enough?
  • lunaclown
  • re: caleb_t

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� lunaclown
    Right on man...right on.
  • full_auto
  • This is so wrong

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� full_auto
    I was fine with Bungie's Halo 2 map stratagy, but this crosses a line. I want my games to be complete, I'm paying $60 for god's sake. So now I'm being told that is only for the "starter package" and for the real game I need to pay $2.50 PER ITEM. This is ridiculous.
  • XxFaTaLGaMeRxX16
  • Do the math...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� XxFaTaLGaMeRxX16
    ok so, an xbox 360 game (third party) is about $60... $3 is about 5 percent of $60, i doubt a little f***in suit of armor for a horse is worth 1/20 of an ENTIRE game... a reasonable price would be around the $.50-$1.00 range, think about all the crap theyre gunna tempt u to buy: oooo a new sword $3, oooo a new shoe $3, oooo a white spot for my horse's nose $3, oooo a mole for my knight... before u know it, ull be spendin $80+ on one game.
  • Tylahedras
  • So 70$ wasn't enough?

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Tylahedras
    Great, so let me get this strait, I lay out 70 bones on a game which is suppoosed to be complete, then they remind me they didn't do everything they could by tossing in 2-3$ downloads for content I should have had all along? I am going to pay a "premium" for a nifty hat? Come on, I would rather save marketplace for low dev cost game sales, not have the privilage of spending more on something they most likely left out specifically so they could charge me for it later. I don't like the idea that if I want to color Master Chief white in Halo 3 multiplayer I will need to shell out even more cash. Doesn't anyone else see that this micropayment crap will lead to incomplete games?
  • Obiwandawson
  • Thats like a dollor an hour

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Obiwandawson
    Napolean Dynamite
  • caleb_t
  • pissing & moaning about price...

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� caleb_t
    I know there will be a lot of complaining about the price. Just don't get it if you think its too expensive. It's that easy. If you have money to "toss" then by all means, but before it starts, we (I) don't care to listen to whining about the cost, just dont mess with it. Then maybe they (the company resposible) will drop the price's in the future. This being said. Have a great day, and don't run with sissors...unless you want to whine about the price.
  • jgibson75
  • Woo Hoo!

    Posted: userComment.createdDate by� jgibson75
    Got my horse armor on and it is pretty... lol. I'd like to see some fancy armor for my character hit the download soon... or nice decor for one of my houses!

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