Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 25

May 25

Category:The World at War

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:The World at War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 23:40, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:C2F, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 19:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We don't automatically create categories for every television series. Dimadick (talk) 02:56, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Riize members

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 3#Category:Riize members

Category:Hearts2Hearts

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Hearts2Hearts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization per WP:OCEPON. Only 3 articles and 2 subcategories, which sufficiently interlink amongst one another. Another subcategory only contains an image file.Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 19:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Petros Iakovidis

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Petros Iakovidis to Category:Petros Iakovidis albums

Nominator's rationale: Category contains four albums by Iakovidis, and the artist himself. It should be an albums category rather than an eponymous category. 1857a (talk) 16:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:04, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename and re-parent per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Volleyball players from Yokohama

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Volleyball players from Yokohama to Category:Sportspeople from Yokohama

Nominator's rationale: Also merge to Category:Volleyball players from Kanagawa Prefecture

Also propose merging-

All categories with just one or two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 12:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Communists oppose the Chinese Communist Party

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Communists oppose the Chinese Communist Party (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Clearly mistitled new category (perhaps "Communists who oppose..."?), but irredeemable due to its binary nature. For example, Japanese Communist Party has been added to the category, but a cursory glance of that article indicates that there are both pro- and anti- sentiments towards the Chinese Communist Party. This appears to be WP:POV-pushing. Dorsetonian (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are certainly people who are communists and who are against the CCP, and they are relatively minor among the communists (especially the Leninist line), so they need to be classified individually. In addition, when it comes to the description or use of categories in articles usually related to existing political parties, the most emphasis is placed on the 'present'. ProgramT (talk) 11:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

However, I am not opposed to changing the title. Examples: Category:Communists' opposition to the Chinese Communist Party / Category:Communists against the Chinese Communist Party. ProgramT (talk) 11:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:OPINIONCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:36, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OPINIONCAT. Simonm223 (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OPINIONCAT. -- Just N. (talk) 19:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Albums produced by Bob Ferguson (music)

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The result of the discussion was: Reverse merge and rename * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Albums produced by Bob Ferguson (music) to Category:Albums produced by Bob Ferguson (musician)

Nominator's rationale: Both categories are for the same producer (Bob Ferguson (musician)). 1857a (talk) 07:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse merge to the older page, thereafter rename to Category:Albums produced by Bob Ferguson (musician). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the end result the same regardless? Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, you'd lose the page history of the older page if merged as nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fair. Reverse merge then rename per above. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 16:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse merge per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 19:23, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Medieval Romanian nobility

Propose splitting Category:Medieval Romanian nobility to Category:Wallachian nobility and Category:Moldavian nobility

Nominator's rationale: split, as Romania is anachronistic. Wallachia and Moldavia merged to Romania in the 19th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose under the nominator's rationale, figures like Litovoi or Bărbat being "Wallachian" is anachronistic, while Transylvanian figures like Gelou do not fit in the proposed merge. The current category reflects the ethnic background of the nobility and the national historiography of which they are interest. Super Ψ Dro 09:26, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would be fine with having those three articles in a separate Vlach category, but since they are not in the nominated category it is not relevant for this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Vlach" is an exonym encompassing multiple ethnic groups. In such a category would also fit Nikoulitzas Delphinas, who is more commonly discussed in academia regarding the Aromanian ethnic group, or Ivanko (boyar), to whom attributing a precise ethnicity would probably be controversial. In any case, with a "Vlach" category we would be just recreating the nominated category, but with a broader and more vague scope. I consider it superior to group together figures with a clear shared ethnic background and common coverage in the national historiography of a country. The figures I mentioned in my first comment are relevant because they undoubtedly fit in the category even if it hasn't been added to their articles. Furthermore, the use of "Romanian" is not anachronistic as it refers to the Romanian ethnic group here. We also have Category:Slovak nobility for figures that lived in a period when there was no Slovak state for the same reason, as well as Category:Slovene nobility.

If the nominated category is considered problematic, it could just be merged to Category:Romanian nobility. Super Ψ Dro 12:19, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It looks like this category originally had 7 articles in it before this week. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Anachronistic is a trait found quite often at WP. Here[1] are over 100 categories for a country that didn't exist from 1796 to 1917.Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With establishments specifically the current consensus seems to be that if the subject still exists today then the article can be listed in an establishment of today's country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]