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"test" entries on external datasets

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Was playing around with the formatter URL for the fairly new CAMRA pub ID (P13516) and found what seems to be the lowest numerical identifier on their database : https://camra.org.uk/pubs/111161 , as is made apparent when opening the link. Would this identifier pass Wikidata:Notability by merit of it's being a "test item" similiar to Earth (Q85408509)?

If the answer is no, might a "minimum value of "111162" be warranted or a simple "not 111161", if such a constraint is possible?

(198960 is the highest identifier & seemingly newest pub on their dataset, if anyone is interested in the UK hospitality industry) Tæppa (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I find the idea of having an item where useless identifiers could be saved like in "that one locked room" creative. Assuming bots don't import already used identifiers, it could save us some maintenance. (We can add it to Wikidata:Notability/Items considered notable if we agree on it.) --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 19:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should only record real data minima (recording maxima would be constantly chasing a site's updates. A site's test data is not notable for us. Vicarage (talk) 20:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if dummy value (P5692) (which I've just come across) could be used for this. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 16:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Property documentation

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Is there anyone here who could do an edit here for me? I am not confident enough to do it myself without breaking the thousands of property talk pages on Wikidata Trade (talk) 01:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please outline your request on the template's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:40, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done Trade (talk) 12:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

orphanage is an event and science, according to Wikidata ontology

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See structure:

en: orphanage (residential institution devoted to the care of orphans) [1]

en: residential child care community (type of orphanage) [2]
en: child welfare (organized efforts by communities or organizations to improve the health and well-being of the child) [3]
en: economic activity (human activity involving the transfer of goods or services) [4]
en: transfer (process in which an item associated with one entity becomes similarly associated with another) [5]
en: interaction (kind of action that occurs as two or more objects have an effect upon one another) [6]
en: effect (exercising influence over an entity) [7]
en: action (something an agent can do or perform) [8] this was unexpected here as it indicates an event !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: intentional human activity (human activity driven by purposeful motives) [9] this was unexpected here as it indicates an intentional human activity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: social welfare (care for the social aspects of human health) [10]
en: sociology (social science that studies human society and its development) [11]
en: social science (academic disciplines concerned with society and the relationships between individuals in society) [12]
en: humanities, arts and social sciences (group of humanities, arts and social sciences disciplines) [13]
en: academic major (focus of academic study leading to a degree) [14]
en: academic discipline (academic field of study or profession) [15] this was unexpected here as it indicates an academic discipline !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: social sciences and humanities (area of scholarly activity) [16]
en: science (systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge, and the set of knowledge produced by this system) [17] this was unexpected here as it indicates a science !!!!!!!

Help with fixing is welcome!

Wikidata talk:WikiProject Ontology and User:Mateusz Konieczny/failing testcases has list of few more Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The subclass relation from residential child care community (Q9311671) to child welfare (Q66305973) doesn't make sense to me; I recommend removing that. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree, also the fact that "orphanage (residential institution devoted to the care of orphans)" [10] is a subclass of "residential child care community (type of orphanage)"[11] and latter has a description say "type of orphanage" seems a bit circular. Ttmms (talk) 21:16, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fixed in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9311671&diff=prev&oldid=2348837467 ! Thanks! Though many more remain listed in User:Mateusz Konieczny/failing testcases if anyone is interested (I plan to share next one here in general project chat in 2026, let me know if I should do it earlier)

 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Florida historical marker numbers in item Descriptions are largely wrong

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Been poking at Florida historical marker pages recently, and realised that almost all of them (a) have a Description of "Florida Historic Marker F-[three digit number]", which corresponds to the marker the number was given in the official Florida state database of them, located on the bottom left corner of the sign, and (b) almost(?) all of them are wrong. Just for an example Q111453459 said it was "Florida Historic Marker F-764" when it was, in fact F-744. I've changed a few but every one I've changed has thrown the flag in the 'Florida Historical Marker List ID' Identifier as "should not be on multiple items". If anyone wants a project to go through and fix all of these descriptions and Identifiers, here you are! - The Bushranger (talk) 21:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

rapid changes

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There are several hundred entries which all have the label "LETTERS AND ANSWERS", and no description. These all have "The BMJ" for the property "published in", and a variety of unique values for the property "publication date". I want to give each of these entries the description "scientific article - The BMJ, <publication date>".

Is there a way to achieve this quickly? If so, is there a reasonably simple tool with which to achieve this, or a specific noticeboard where I should ask for this to be done? DS (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Statements, https://quickstatements.toolforge.org is the tool to use Vicarage (talk) 16:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea how to formulate the requisite query. (Yes, I've read the help page. It makes several incorrect assumptions about my skill level and knowledge.) Could you either formulate it for me, or point me to a more suitable place for such a request? DS (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The output from a query such as https://w.wiki/EBJR can be massaged a little to give something QuickStatements could use. The problem here is that Help:Labels says two items can't have identical combinations of label and description. This is the case here as several letters were published on the same days. Infrastruktur (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"LETTERS AND ANSWERS" applies to a section of the journal, for which an individual issue only has one publication date, so it should be fine. As for 'massaging the query' - thank you, but see earlier 'I have no idea'. I'm only barely aware of how to run a query; composing one is beyond me, as is polishing one. (I'll ask on Wikidata:Request a query.)DS (talk) 19:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. A lot of the publication dates in Wikidata are wrong e.g. LETTERS AND ANSWERS (Q94104248), LETTERS AND ANSWERS (Q94103829) and LETTERS AND ANSWERS (Q94103520). I just checked. Infrastruktur (talk) 19:29, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How wonderful, a complication.
"Scientific article published in The BMJ, issue ##", then? Because entries without descriptions get on my nerves. DS (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Started up a batch [18]. It should be done fairly soon. Infrastruktur (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you also take every entry that has the string "Letter to the editor" in its label, and a value of <X> in the "published in" field, and a value of <n> in the "issue" field, and no description, and give them a description of "Item in <X>, issue <n>" ?
(They're not all scientific articles. Some of them aren't even scholarly articles. "Item" should cover it.) DS (talk) 23:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support dark mode in entity page, or maybe redesign the entity page to something like from Wikimedia Commons?

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see the title DinhHuy2010 (talk) 06:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dark mode support is under development. See phab:T385039. Samoasambia ✎ 10:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Samoasambia Alright whatabout redesign the enttiy page as a whole to something like Wikimedia Commons structed data entry? DinhHuy2010 (talk) 14:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't heard about any such initiative ongoing. Samoasambia ✎ 14:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok thanks... DinhHuy2010 (talk) 03:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary vs. tertiary education --> Wikidata infoboxes

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What is best practice to differentiate between secondary and tertiary education in biographical entries? My question results from this edit on English Wikipedia which, presumably, was made to supress the infobox display of the subject's secondary school in the "alma_mater=" field (according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes policy re: not secondary schools). Is there a different property we can use for "secondary education" or "high school" to resolve this issue? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 06:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: For ref., re: Alexis Georgacopoulos (Q119219305)

educational stage (P7374) exists to qualify educated at (P69) statements, that seems like a useful way to filter our secondary schools from the infoboxes. M2Ys4U (talk) 16:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This seems promising. Some work will need to be done on w:Template:Infobox person/Wikidata to prevent it from displaying educational stage (P7374) (I just tested it and unless the property is assigned a depreciated rank here in Wikidata, it still displays in the Wikipedia infobox). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With regard to how this applies to the Wikipedia infoboxes that use Wikidata, how should the difference between |alma_mater= and |education= be addressed in this instance? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: There is a discussion about some of these nuances here, for those who might wish to help out. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Q42470, Q4942042 and Q1659140 – looking especially for users speaking Polish and/or Hungarian

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Hello everyone, there is an item Q42470 about the concept of "motto" as the motto of a city, country, institution and similar, with links to more than 100 versions of Wikipedia. There is also Q4942042, which has links to only two Wikipedias, pl:Dewiza in Polish and hu:Mottó (heraldika) in Hungarian. Speaking neither language and only using Google Translate, it seems to me that this should be merged with Q42470. There are other articles in Polish and Hungarian linked from Q42470: pl:Motto seems to correspond with another Wikidata item, Q1659140, which deals with the special concept of a motto at the beginning of a book. However, hu:Mottó seems right to me, with hu:Mottó (heraldika) dealing with the special case of a motto in a coat of arms. Are there any Wikidata users, especially those proficient in at least one of the languages in question, who could help to solve the puzzle? Thank you! --slg (talk) 12:59, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"pl:Motto seems to correspond with another Wikidata item, Q1659140, which deals with the special concept of a motto at the beginning of a book" - as native speaker of Polish I can confirm this Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 15:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #680

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-05-19. Missed the previous one? See issue #679.
Help with Translations.

Discussions

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Wikidata-Taxonomy is a Command-line tool and library to extract taxonomies from Wikidata.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • We are improving and expanding our Help and documentation pages, please tell us what you think: Parser Functions

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • UI: We are putting the finishing touches on the new search box that will make it easier to search for Properties, Lexemes and EntitySchemas as well (phab:T321543)
  • Dark mode: We fixed the last known issues and are getting ready to roll it out
  • Mobile statement editing: We are refining prototypes for testing and started technical investigations
  • Wikibase REST API: We are continuing the work on simple search, focusing on phrase matching now (phab:T389011)
  • Query Service: We are working on a small experiment to show a notification for simple queries that are better run on other APIs (phab:T391264)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Some wrong entries need cleanup and reassignment.

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  • en:Data broker/Information Broker (Q1418159) needs the German Wikipage de:Datenhändler added, which is currently a redirect only, but should be extended later to a separate lemma with broader scope of all aspects of data collecting, analysing and trading as covered by en:Data broker.

For some reason it won't let me add this. The formerly linked de:Informationsvermittler has a completely different scope and meaning and had to be removed for this reason from (Q1418159), it was simply wrong here: these are private companies doing de:Information Retrieval based on de:Recherchen for money.
Many thanks!--87.122.16.169 01:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

unmanned / unstaffed / unfilled / unoccupied

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Sometimes a position in an organization is unoccupied for a period of time, but we don't have nothing suitable to express that . Item uncrewed (Q64214395) is not suitable. Needed to create new item? I would appreciate your advice. Geagea (talk) 18:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Geagea: I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do, but this sounds like what the "no value" option is for - see Wikidata:Glossary#Claim - also Help:Statements#Unknown or no values. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let's say deputy director of organization
2000 - 2010 - Martin Cohen
2010-2020 - unoccupied
2020 - today Marta Levi
How "no value" expression that? "no value" might also be other meaning. Geagea (talk) 18:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a good use-case for the recently proposed Wikidata:Property proposal/Reason for no value property M2Ys4U (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we have a property for deputy director, do we? Here's how I might model it though:
See Wikidata Sandbox 1 (Q4115189) (for the moment) where I've added the no value statement here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 02:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. And Reason for no value seems to be useful as well. Geagea (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

urgent some one create wrong account please delete

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im hossein salari moghaddam khon as salar moghadam or bitsoll artist and famous in social media some one create by my name for abuse to broke my reputation please remove the wikidata hossein salari moghaddam please emove the account its that not me 91.74.7.68 21:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please contact privacy@wikimedia.org who will arrange for you to submit proof of identity. You should specify the exactsuer account name concerned when you contact them; you can do this by copying and pasting the web address of the user page, for example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming of Spanish label of Property:P138

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The property's named after (P138) Spanish label is wrong. I understand that "nombrado por" was the original consensus reached. However, it is incorrect, the meaning of "nombrado por" is "named by" or "appointed by", not "named after." I request that it be renamed as "lleva el nombre de", "nombrado en honor a", or "nombrado en referencia a".

JaimeDes (talk) 00:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a merge

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Can someone please merge ollning (Q131433764) and turkey slap (Q7855170) into Swaffelen (Q611145) correctly? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and Wikidata)

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of Abstract Wikipedia: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve Wikidata, we wanted to hear your thoughts too.

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content. Thank you in advance! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 12:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has part(s) (P527) with multiple possible types of parts

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Hi,

When describing a cabinet (Q640506), it seems like the common practice is to use items which are instance of (P31) human (Q5) as values for the property has part(s) (P527); this query finds over 300 cabinets described this way.

However, it is also possible to use items which are instances of (a subclass of...) a political party (Q7278), to describe the cabinet's composition in terms of parties. Currently, this is much less commonly used, with six cabinets so described.

In my opinion, conceptually, both ideas are equally correct. The question is, what if we want to describe both the parties and the parliament members of a certain cabinet? Should all of them just be added as multiple values of the has part(s) (P527) property? Should a qualifier be used to differentiate between the two groups? Or maybe the usage of has part(s) (P527) for parties is wrong for some reason, and a completely different property should be used to describe this relation?

This was my original question; any answers or thoughts about it would be greatly appreciated. It can also be generalized to a wider context, which is how I phrased the title; any thoughts on this topic in general would be most welcome as well.

Thanks! E L Yekutiel (talk) 14:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What am I doing wrong?

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I've tried to add a Bluesky handle and I copied it exactly after the @ symbol from Bluesky. I used this to find and add the DID as a qualifier and that appears fine and links back to the correct Bluesky page when clicked on but it is saying that there is a "format constraint" with the Bluesky handle and when I click on it it won't find the Bluesky page. The page I did this for is The Irish Times if that helps to see what I might have done wrong. Helper201 (talk) 21:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the string that was used as the value of the bluesky handle property contained a non-printable character (U+202C). I removed it, now it's fine. E L Yekutiel (talk) 21:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
E L Yekutiel thank you but I still understand what I did wrong. I copied and pasted the name after the @ from Bluesky into the Bluesky handle section, as I seem to recall doing with other pages that worked fine doing this previously; so why did that not work here? Helper201 (talk) 21:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Helper201,
I can't tell why this worked in the past. It might depend on browser / device / encoding, which you may have changed since; or maybe this non-printable character appears only in some of the places where the username is displayed and not in others, and in the past you copied it from another place on the page; or Bluesky may have changed something on their website. I don't know.
In any case, try copying it again from there, and pasting it in the top (larger) text box here (replacing the default content), and then click on the button saying "show me the characters" to see the actual content in the bottom box. I just did it, and the non-printable appears right there, at the end of the string. E L Yekutiel (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
E L Yekutiel, okay, thank you. Helper201 (talk) 22:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wish to add info about company "Xerendipity Corporation"

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Good afternoon

Could I add some more information about the international firm Xerendipity Corporation Ltd.?

Xerendipity is a high-profile household staff recruitment company based in London and Italy.

How can we do this?

Thank you for your attention.

Best wishes

Francesco-DB68 (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, if you wish add information about the item "Xerendipity Corporation", you'll have to add a statement, via "+add statement". QwertyZ34 (talk) 16:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Francesco-DB68: The item you're looking for is Xerendipity (Q134549451). I've filled out some information. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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